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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
- We are Junyoosung! - We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
- There is only one more week left. - Yes.
After one week, year 2017 starts.
You're all busy, right?
(People are busy at the year-end.)
- We're all busy. - Yes.
Many people go on a trip, too.
Nobody wants their trip to be ruined just because of one rude passenger.
That happened to Richard Marx.
- He told us about it. - Goodness.
(A drunk office worker became unruly inside the plane.)
(The flight attendants and passengers subdued him.)
(This became known to the public through Richard Marx's posting on social media.)
(The controversy continues over whether they handled the situation appropriately.)
A man was unruly for two hours.
Unintentionally, he embarrassed our nation as well.
I don't know how he feels about this.
If this incident had happened in your country,
how would it have been handled?
Why don't we talk about different incidents happened in airplanes...
and the level of punishment in your country?
- Were there any incidents like this? - Yes, a lot.
- A lot? - In America?
- Really? - Perhaps you know...
about Conrad Hilton, the younger brother of Paris Hilton.
Their parents founded Hilton Hotels.
Inside the plane, he repeated sitting down and standing up.
He also pestered other passengers.
He even tried to smoke marijuana in the plane.
The flight attendant told him he can't do that.
He got mad all of a sudden...
and said, "You should all die."
"My dad knows the CEO of this airline."
- "Within five minutes..." - Fire them?
I don't like how he mentioned his dad.
Also, he called other passengers...
- peasants. - Peasants?
- What's the word? - In English, it's peasant.
Also, he asked the flight attendants,
"Why are you taking sides with the peasants? You should be on my side."
"Why are you on the peasant's side?"
- That's what he said. - Gosh.
He explained later that it was due to the sleeping pills he had taken.
He said the sleeping pills made him act like that.
- He had to sleep. - Maybe it was because of the marijuana.
As for Pakistan International Airlines,
everyone got on board, but the plane couldn't take off...
for two and a half hours.
Later people found out they were waiting for a politician...
for two and a half hours.
They were waiting for that one person?
- Yes, that one person. - I almost called him a rascal.
- One person... - Let's call him a rascal.
- That rascal... - Yes.
- That rascal. - They were waiting for that rascal.
People later found out about this.
So when the politician tried to get on board,
they closed the door and told him to leave.
(Shouting)
(You're not a minister anymore.)
(Get off the plane.)
They filmed the whole incident and uploaded on the internet,
which became a huge issue.
The person who filmed the incident...
got fired from his job because of the politician.
- Because of the politician? - The politician who couldn't get on board?
Did he find out who filmed the incident?
Yes, it became an even bigger issue.
In China, an emergency exit of an airplane was opened while preparing to take off.
- While preparing to take off? - Yes.
- An emergency exit was opened? - Yes.
There was this person who got on the airplane for the first time.
He got airsick,
so he wanted to get some fresh air.
He opened the door.
He ended up being held in police custody for a week...
and was fined 70 dollars.
About a month ago in Mexico,
a snake had appeared in an airplane.
- In the airplane... - A snake?
A snake?
The snake must've been shocked.
Where am I?
Why is the atmospheric pressure so low?
(Where am I?)
The airplane took off,
and people heard some noise.
So they checked the compartment to see if there was anything.
And a huge snake came out.
So they made an emergency landing...
and caught the snake.
Thankfully, no one was hurt,
but I don't understand how a snake was able to get inside.
- But... - Christian,
this snake wasn't let out intentionally.
- Right? - No.
I've taken an airplane in Sudan, Africa.
- I'm curious. - Sudan?
They have lions.
They bring chickens into the airplane.
- I was shocked. - They bring chickens?
Yes.
- I was sitting down... - It's like village buses back in the day.
Do they make chicken stew in the airplane?
When the airplane took off, the chickens crowed like this.
My goodness.
I will never forget the experience I had in Sudan.
Gosh.
There's a famous man called Vittorio Sgarbi in Italy.
He got on a Swiss flight from Rome to Geneva in September.
He was sitting in the economy class.
But the closest toilet was in the first class.
So he used that toilet...
and took care of his business there.
The flight attendants knocked on the door...
and asked him to get out. They told him only first class passengers can use it.
He got really upset.
He later uploaded a video talking about the incident.
(Swiss flight attendants knocked on the door...)
(just like when Nazis were arresting Jews.)
(Banging)
(I will never use Swissair again.)
- Wasn't his comment too harsh? - They were quite mean, too.
He's actually quite strange.
- Is he strange? - If you search his name on YouTube,
you will see lots of videos of him fighting with other people.
- He keeps... - When I saw his video,
I thought it was really funny.
My mom is a flight attendant, too.
So she has a lot of experience.
What kind of passengers does she hate the most?
- Did she tell you about them? - I'm sure you've heard many funny stories.
I've heard funny stories from her.
When you take a plane to America,
there's a special regulation you need to abide by.
You cannot talk in groups in the airplane.
- You can't. - To prevent terror?
My mom was working on an airplane to America and found a group of people talking.
So she said to them, "I'm sorry but can you go back to your seats?"
"You're not allowed to stand here and talk."
They got really mad and told her,
"What kind of regulation is that? What's your name?"
"I will report you to the police."
"I work at CIA. I can do whatever I want."
They were unruly.
My mom told them they could report her if they wanted.
She told them to sit down...
and brought the situation under control.
When the airplane landed, the guy came up to my mom...
and asked, "Where is your hotel?"
"Are you married?"
(Why would he ask that?)
"Do you want to go out for a meal?"
- Did he ask her out? - Yes.
He's like a kid who pesters girls he likes.
They cut elastic strings.
This also happened to her many times.
In economy class, various people sit next to each other, right?
Sometimes, couples sit next to each other.
- Couples? - When the lights are turned off,
they do strange things under the blanket.
When other passengers complain about it,
the flight attendants have to go there and stop them, right?
But how can you stop them?
They have to decide whether they have to tell them during the act or after the act.
- What if they're... - You two can't sit next to each other.
Recently, a survey regarding the matter was carried out in Italy.
Some people do sexual acts in the airplanes.
We refer to them as "Mile High Club". It's a slang.
- Mile high? - Mile High Club.
If you have that experience, you can call yourself a member of the club.
(They played "Never Have I Ever" in an American talk show.)
(Embarrassed)
According to a survey,
Italians top the ranking when it comes to the Mile High Club.
- We... - Of course.
- As expected. - About 17 percent of Italians have experienced it.
A few of them were even arrested for it.
A famous British actor...
was caught during the act.
Of course that person's name wasn't revealed.
So BBC even researched to find out whether it's illegal or not.
- Is it illegal? - Isn't it?
It's unclear. It's...
There are no regulations regarding that.
There are no regulations about sexual intercourse.
- Surely, these passengers are annoying. - Yes.
According to the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport,
from 2013 to 2015, the number of illegal acts in the airplanes was doubled.
Since the unruly passengers increased,
Korea had revised Aviation Safety and Security Act.
The revised law came into force in January this year.
According to the revised law, if you cause a stir in the airplane...
and harm others, you will be fined up to 10,000 dollars.
I want to know how each country punishes unruly passengers in the airplane.
In America, the punishment is quite severe.
When you fly to the US,
regardless of the nationality of the plane or passenger,
you will be punished according to American laws.
We experienced 9/11 terrorist attacks.
So we consider these unruly passengers as terrorists.
If you hit a flight attendant,
- you can be jailed up to 20 years. - I see.
If you use weapons,
- You could receive a life imprisonment. - Is it for life?
What did Richard Marx...
- I don't understand. - He was saying they were unprepared and untrained.
Flight attendants have tasers, right?
In the US, the flight attendants have tasers.
But these flight attendants weren't trained to use those.
If this was a US plane, they'd have used them.
Even though we are neighboring countries, we are so different.
We don't believe that being disruptive is a crime.
In our country, that person would just have to pay a 50 dollar fine.
- Did you say 50 dollars? - That's what we pay for spitting out gum on the street.
- If it's 50 dollars... - If it was very disruptive...
- Is it 100 dollar fine? - They'll be incarcerated for 90 days.
I think European airlines have protocols for all situations.
If you cause a disturbance,
then they try to settle it through a dialogue.
If the situation gets worse,
- then three flight attendants will appear and use tasers. - That would be scary.
They would tie that person up, so the passenger can't move.
- They could tape the mouth as well. - Tape.
If the plane has to make an emergency landing, then the fines are immense.
Because the airline is making a huge loss.
With more people doing disruptive behaviors on flights,
the Swiss flight attendants have complained to the government.
If a flight attendant receives unwanted sexual advances from a passenger,
then the flight attendant can slap the passenger.
- They can slap the passenger? - Yes.
That sounds like it would be powerful enough to spin his head around once.
- They are allowed to hit passengers. - Yes.
I don't think it is that serious in Japan.
If a passenger makes disturbance,
then they would have to pay a fine that is under 5,000 dollars.
- That's not a lot. - Yes, it's not a lot.
How do they handle such disruptive behaviour? Are they careful?
Do they just hope they will stop causing such a problem?
- There was a survey done about this. - Right.
We asked if the flight attendant would go up and talk to the passenger.
The results of the survey came back with 60 percent saying they couldn't do it.
They would just give him looks.
- I'll bear it. - The 60 percent was in the case of Japanese flight attendants.
Almost 70 percent of foreign flight attendants on Japanese airlines said no as well.
- They were afraid they might speak in English. - Yes, English.
- English. - They're afraid they'll speak English.
The reason that disturbances happen most of the time...
- is because of alcohol. - Right.
In India, we have a lot of incidents where people have caused a disruptive incident.
You know the passengers lounge, right?
You're restricted and served only 45ml of strong alcohol...
like vodka, whiskey and rum.
Passengers are restricted to servings of 200ml of beer and wine.
I see.
- A lot of disruptive behavior is caused because of alcohol. - It is.
They didn't serve alcohol on domestic flights but now Indian airlines...
have proposed the idea of not serving alcohol on international flights either.
In Korea, when most foreigners...
are served kimchi for the first time.
It's very cute to watch. They stare at it for a very long time.
They thought it was a separate dish.
They just eat the kimchi.
(Tasting the kimchi)
- Right. - On Korean airlines, they serve bibimbap, right?
- Most foreigners don't know how to eat it. - Right.
When it comes out, they stare at it for a long time.
- Right. Some people eat it without adding gochujang. - Right.
I see.
When I was coming over to Korea,
I had received a samgak kimbap.
So, I took off the wrapping and everything.
People kept on staring at me.
- Did you open up the seaweed? - I had unwrapped it.
- You thought it was the packaging. - Right.
When I go back to my hometown from the capital,
we are flying from the bottom and there are a lot of mountains.
The captain introduces all the mountains.
He's like a guide. That's interesting.
- Is he a guide? - Yes, he is.
If you look to your right, you can see this mountain.
"To your left you can see this mountain." He introduces all the mountains.
- The trip is very noisy. - That's interesting.
When I was young, I always...
went to greet the captain.
If you asked the flight attendant,
- you can go and greet the captain. - Why would you greet the captain?
- He was curious. - You can ask...
what each of these buttons does.
You can ask and receive an autograph as well.
That's so different.
You can see the sky in front of you.
You can see the plane going through the clouds.
- We normally only see to the side. - Right.
We can barely see it if we look at like that.
This view can only be seen from the front of the plane.
(Going through the clouds)
Non Summit Meeting dreams of a world without violence.
We'll start our discussion now.
It's time for the Non Summit members...
to bring forth issues from their nations that they'd like to talk about.
It's time to discuss the global issues, "What Is So Important?"
("What Is So Important?")
This is an issue brought forth by the Indian representative, Lucky.
Prime Minister Modi said that he'd clean up black money in India.
He has announced the demonetization of large bank notes.
He has proposed a plan to replace them with new notes.
However this has caused chaos and confusion.
I would like to ask all of you for your opinions on this.
So, I have brought forth this issue.
On the evening of November eighth, the Indian Prime Minister said...
he'd strip the 500 and 1,000 rupee notes of its status as legal tender...
from the ninth of November.
Until the 31st of December...
banks and post offices will exchange these old notes for the new notes.
- These older notes will become nothing but paper. - Right.
(People are lining up to exchange these old bills for the new ones.)
(Occasional acts of violence have erupted.)
Some people have died from a heart attack while waiting in line.
There have been murders because she didn't come back with the exchanged money.
There are so many different incidents happening.
(Prime Minister Modi has agreed to extend the deadline until March of next year.)
Why is there such a rush to get monetary reforms done?
I'm sure this will surprise you, but please don't be surprised.
Among the 1.2 billion people in India,
only one percent of the population pays income tax. That's how bad tax evasion got.
- I see. - Goodness.
Also, to avoid tax evasion,
the amount of money hidden by households...
- was substantial. - They have a safe.
If you examine the current numbers...
from the amount of money that has been exchanged.
If we converted the amount into Korean currency, it'd be 600 billion dollars.
So if people do not declare their wealth,
they'll be in big trouble.
Well, Alphago...
has written a book about monetary reform.
- About monetary reforms. - Right. What do you think of this?
This is the third time that India has done a monetary reform.
They did it in 1954 and 1978.
The problem is...
the duration is too short.
The traders are so afraid that they aren't willing to accept the old notes.
The duration to exchange the currency is too short.
That's why it has become so hard for India.
I rang my correspondent in India to ask him about the situation.
He says it is tough on him, too.
The monetary reform in India...
was done to stamp out black money.
On the one hand, we could criticize the government...
for looking away at the citizen's struggles.
It's time to hear your opinions.
Do you think monetary reform will be helpful economically.
Or do you think the harm will be bigger.
If you think it will be a boost economically, press the button.
In 1, 2 and 3. Press the button.
(Indian monetary reform, 6 agree and 5 disagree)
India is at that stage where their economy is still developing.
Trying to replace the legal tender of notes in such a short time...
is a difficult and costly job...
however I feel this is like bitter medicine. They need to take it...
but because it hurts, people are trying to avoid it.
If you avoid the medication, it might lead to an even greater illness.
Humans right is important...
but I believe the patient needs to take this medicine to help improve society.
They do need to take their medication.
However, the problem is there are two kinds of shots.
The first one gets rid of the illness.
The second medication prolongs the illness from harming the patient.
I think this one will postpone the illness.
If you want to get rid of tax evasion or money laundering,
then you need a record.
However, they have just exchanged the note for another note.
This is a problem. If you want to keep a record,
- Alberto, there is something you need to know. - Hold on. I know the problem.
I know that credit cards don't work in India.
(Only 1.6 percent of Indians have a credit card.)
Although China is big and has a lot of problems.
But still the Chinese government is heavily...
investing in credit cards and instant transactions.
They are putting a lot of time and energy into this.
They are growing so they have to.
I think India should use this opportunity...
to create a culture of spending money with your card.
- You could stop corruption through that. - That's nice.
- Yes. - The good thing about this is...
Are you acknowledging Xinlin's suggestion?
- You were patting him on the back. - He's not right that often.
Good job.
He said something right for once.
This is what I wanted to say.
If you do this,
people would rightly assume that the government has gotten rid of money laundering.
But for people who committed no crimes,
they would feel this is unjust.
It's not unfair. This happened because they didn't pay their income tax.
If they had paid their income tax, this would not have happened.
A lot of people are suffering because of this.
Even if you think of this as bitter medicine,
a lot of people are still lining up to change their money.
They don't have enough new bills to exchange for the older notes.
I think this is stopping the economy from running.
People need to exchange money,
and the baby needs to go to the hospital.
However since they haven't got the newer notes, the taxi driver can't get paid.
It's the same with everything else.
They can't buy clothes, food, or other things.
I think this is having a huge effect on the economy.
Most people don't have a bank account.
They have to go in and make one.
- They need to fill in and copy documents. - It's something they need.
But for the ordinary citizens,
if it was a small number of people it'd be fine.
- However people are lining up for 2 to 3 hours. - It's not 2 to 3 hours.
- It's 2 days. - They are waiting in line for 2 days.
They wait and fill in documents and make an account.
In India, some people wait 10 hours for a train.
- But that's... - What he's trying to say is...
The government should have prepared in advance.
Even if Lucky had warned them to be prepared.
You need to check and make sure that they are making the necessary preparations.
- You need to make sure. - This is...
The country already gave the people a chance.
By the end of August,
if you have money that you haven't declared, put it in the bank.
(The government had extended the deadline to the end of September.)
But still the people refused to put their money in the bank.
For people who have hidden money away,
they have more time to launder their money.
Black money is like cancer...
That way, people would be taxed in a more fair and precise way.
Then India would be bound to succeed.
Now we're talking about monetary reform. The biggest currency reform ever...
was the creation of Euro, a single currency introduced by European countries.
(12 European countries with different currencies chose to use a single currency, Euro.)
(Euro began to circulate on January 1st, 2002 and is used in 19 countries as of now.)
How did people think of it at that time? Please tell us about it.
Germans were not quite happy about it.
Especially, when Euro was first introduced,
weaker currencies from Italy and Greece were flowed into Germany.
That was one reason why Germans didn't want to use Euro.
Because the monetary value of their currencies were very low compared to ours.
- In the past, we used to use mark, a Deutsch mark. - Right.
We still have the old currency worth of 8.3 billion dollars.
We still have it.
Do you still have that much of money in mark?
Though we can't actually use it, we believe it's more...
reliable in terms of monetary value than Euro.
- Do you have money in mark too? - No, I don't.
I have not much in Euro, either.
- I see. - Yes, you're living here.
I only have Korean won.
- Yes, that's enough. - You can still change mark into Euro.
- Are they preparing to exit the Euro zone? - In Germany, you can change mark...
- to Euro. - In France, money exchange into Euro was allowed only for 10 years.
Same here. We were able to change our currency into Euro only for 10 years.
When the exchange period ended in 2012,
there were a lot of controversies.
For example, there was an office worker.
He inherited about 600,000 dollars from his aunt...
in lira.
He inherited the money in 2013 and went to bank to convert them, but was refused.
As so many people raise complaints about it,
a temporary conversion of lira into Euro was allowed for several months in 2016.
We still have...
about 1 billion dollars in lira.
Isn't there anyone who's positive about Euro?
- Me. - I think it's good.
I don't like it.
- I'm negative about it. - As I expected.
- It's Germany and France. - Because I have to calculate.
It takes me quite a long time to calculate...
to see how much it actually means when converted into franc.
I still need to calculate.
The biggest goal of currency reform is to find out hidden slush funds and prevent...
money laundering and tax evasion.
Please tell us how money laundering is done in your countries.
- Tax evasion is a huge issue in Italy. - You can take pride in it.
The amount of money we lost due to tax evasion is incredible.
(Tax evasion cost Italy 1.52 trillion dollars.)
It's unbelievable, right? That money was supposed to go to the Government.
The scale of the underground economy is also enormous.
It's about 3 trillion dollars.
It's huge. Tax evasion and...
money laundering is rampant.
So there are many money laundering experts. Recently,
money laundering agents usually earn about 1,300 dollars a day.
- Oh dear. - My goodness.
When you make a cash transaction in Europe,
the limit is 1,000 Euro.
What's strange here is, it's different in Germany.
About 80 percent of all transactions are made in cash in Germany.
- They don't use credit cards much. - Really?
Therefore, the limit for cash transaction is 5,000 Euro in Germany.
Transactions worth of up to 5,000 Euro are allowed in cash.
It makes tax evasion relatively easier.
That's why some Koreans headed for Germany recently.
Are you trying to mention the recent scandal?
Tax evasion is very common in Germany, too.
As the tax rate is pretty high in Germany, many people try to avoid taxes.
- That's true. - But once tax evasion is found, you'll face a severe punishment.
If you're found guilty,
you'll be sentenced to 3 months to 10 years.
Why does Switzerland help such illegal acts?
I can't but agree that my country is famous for money laundering. That's true.
We consider the relation between bankers and customers...
should be the same as the one between doctors and patients.
We have to keep their secrets. That's guaranteed by an act on banking secrecy.
But in recent years, especially because of pressure from the U.S.,
the act has lost much of its power.
But even after that,
many people around the world flock to Switzerland for tax evasion because...
the value of Swiss franc is considered very stable.
Moreover, even if a bank in Switzerland goes bankrupt,
your deposit is protected and you can get it back by law.
What efforts your countries make to prevent money laundering and tax evasion?
In Italy, we have...
police officers for that purpose.
The officers are dedicated to dealing with money laundering and tax evasion issues.
They're called Guardia de Finanza.
There are about 70,000 police officers under the organization.
- It also has 600 boats and 100 aircrafts. - Really?
- That means it's really huge. - Do they even use aircrafts to tackle tax evasion?
- It's because the scale is massive. - I see.
We have a special act in France regarding that.
When I go to a bank to deposit my money,
the bank employees will...
- come and ask me about the source of that money. - It's same in my country.
They would ask me how I built that much of asset.
Then I have to prove that it's "clean" money.
I have to prove it.
- If I can't, they wouldn't take my money. - I see.
In Japan, personal identification is very strict.
When you use an ATM, you can't...
transfer money more than 1,000 dollars.
You need to use your card or visit the bank in person.
One thing that really surprised me in Korea was...
the loose personal identification when using the credit card.
- They just scribble like this. - Instead of a proper signature.
Or some even ask if I want them to do it on behalf of me.
They swipe it and sign on behalf of me.
The clerk would draw a line like this.
You're supposed to sign your autograph same as the one behind the credit card.
- Right. - You have to.
In Korean, my name is six syllables but I could finish only the first letter.
- While I was signing it, - Even before you finished your signature,
the receipt started to come out.
All right, it's done.
With just the first letter of your name.
Some wealthy people are eager to further build up their wealth by illegal means.
And Korea is not an exception from such malpractice.
We all look forward to living in a fair society where your efforts are paid back.
"What's So Important?" will be continued next week.
Thank you.
Let me introduce today's representative.
She made her hot debut in the movie "Sunny" five years ago.
She has played many supporting roles in movies and dramas. It's actress Park Jin-ju.
(The 130th Korean representative is Park Jin-ju.)
- Welcome. - Welcome.
Hello.
Hello. Nice to meet you.
(Hey! Girls' generation!)
(She was cast as a foul-mouthed girl, "Jin-hee" in "Sunny".)
(Since then she has proved her versatile talent in many areas.)
Hello, I'm Park Jin-ju. I'm an actress.
I made my debut in a movie titled "Sunny".
I'm still active in my career...
to be closer to viewers.
(She sang herself when she entered, and encouraged everyone to give her a big hand.)
I heard that you...
have met Hyun-moo a long time ago.
Yes, but I'm not really close to him.
- I'm so sorry to hear that. - Well,
we once showed up in a same variety show and really enjoyed it.
After that, he suggested me that we should be "following" each other on Instagram.
- He follows you and vice versa. - Yes. I thought we'd become friends, but he didn't follow mine.
- Did you follow mine? - Sure.
That's enough.
My goodness.
- That's what he does all the time. - You're fooled.
Is it to increase the number of followers?
Recently, you played a role of a nurse...
who's really burnt out and rarely expresses her feelings.
- It was good. - Cool.
Not all nurses are like that.
But she's so good at acting a nurse stuck in a rut.
Xinlyn, please act like an irritating patient.
Then she'll give you a shot.
- Wang Xinlyn. - Yes.
Please go to the doctor's office.
- So funny. - Okay.
- It's a pain-killing injection. It stings a bit. - I see.
It stings.
(A perfect example of a nurse who's tired of her everyday work)
Actresses often go to skin clinics.
Employees there are very nice and kind.
They say like this. "It might a bit hot."
- Exactly. - Right.
That's how the nurses at those clinics say.
They should give us some time to prepare ourselves before something hot.
But they just place the hot towel on my face right after saying that. It hurts!
(So hot!)
You love it.
- I love the way she acts. - She's so talented.
You're really attractive.
- She's cool. - She's a great singer.
- Yes. - She's amazing.
- How did you know that? - How?
- You like her, don't you? - I'm her follower.
I happened to meet him...
at someone's wedding ceremony.
She sang a song there.
It was the most touching live performance I've ever heard.
- What was the song? - "Love Is a Closed Door". No, an open door.
- Love is an open door. - A closed door?
Love can also be a closed door.
Since it was a ceremony of my company's investor, I did my best.
- Of course you have to try your best if it's for your investor. - Yes.
Can you sing a verse for us assuming that your investor is here?
Please.
(An expectant look of an active investor)
Let's sing it together. Love is an open door.
All my life has been a series of doors in my face
And then suddenly I bumped into you
Love is an open door
- Hold his hands. - Stop the hands.
- I'm trying to keep the beat. - We need to hold his neck too.
- We should do it. - Because he keeps raising his chin.
(A fun and touching performance)
- She has such a clear voice. - Thank you.
It's the 130th non summit meeting.
Let's hear what her issue is.
Since I work on a variety of areas including...
acting, musical, and vocal training,
one thought came across my mind.
"I keep challenging myself to do more difficult jobs. Am I abnormal?"
- If you're to do that many things at the same time, - Yes.
you must be working really hard.
Just like the issue I brought up today,
it is really tough.
But I don't want to disappoint others.
So I keep pushing myself to do more...
and tell myself that it's okay.
This week's issue is...
"I keep challenging myself to do more difficult jobs. Am I abnormal?"
Let's begin the discussion.
Today, we will be talking about world's extreme jobs.
Please introduce some of the most dangerous jobs in your country.
The crabbing job in the Bering Strait, Alaska...
- is very dangerous. - I've heard about it a lot.
These people have to work on frozen decks...
at 50° below zero,
facing harsh waves.
They have to work more than 20 hours a day.
(The Bering Strait between Alaska and Russia is the habitat of king crabs.)
(The place is known for its harsh waves and cold weather.)
Watch out!
(Workers can lose their lives in this dangerous working environment.)
During the crabbing season, one person loses his life every week.
One person dies every week.
But they get paid more than 100,000 dollars over the course of 4 months.
Even if you could lose your life,
many people apply for the job.
I can see why.
One of the extreme jobs in my country...
is being the president of the United States.
(No way.)
I'm serious.
You're always exposed to the risk of assassinations.
- It can be very stressful. - Right.
According to a research,
American presidents...
age faster than ordinary people.
We can see they age faster.
In year 2000, he didn't have any gray hair.
But they start to have gray hair and wrinkles right away.
Right, he has aged.
I'm sure they take care of themselves.
In Korea, it's all about anti-aging.
In America, it's speedy aging.
Mark just said some heavy words.
(Mark criticized our current situation.)
In Mexico, there's a job called sewage diver.
- It sounds scary. - It's a job.
They wear a diving suit...
and clean the sewage pipes.
Isn't it full of toxic wastes?
That's right. That's why it's very dangerous.
You could get killed if something goes wrong.
(This is the diver.)
When you dive, you can't see anything.
(They dive into the waste water where you can't see anything.)
(There's only one sewage diver in Mexico City.)
- Why do they dive into the waste water? - If you use a machine,
it takes about 15 days to clean the place.
But it only takes two days when divers clean the place.
So they use divers to do the job.
The salary isn't that high though.
The average salary in Mexico is about 1,200 dollars.
They get the average salary.
There are also odor testers in Mexico.
Deodorant companies need a lot of odor testers.
They have to smell the armpits of people.
- Is that a profession? - Yes.
They have to smell like this.
- And they get paid. - He likes it.
(I smell something familiar from a stranger.)
They smell the armpit and apply deodorant.
- Then they smell again. - To see if it works?
Not only do they smell the armpits, they also smell people's feet.
They also smell the excrement of animals.
Why?
That way, they can check...
if their products actually worked.
- It's an extreme job. - We should call them smell testers.
It's...
Here's my resignation letter.
(I can't do it. Take my resignation letter.)
In Canada, powerline technician job is considered as a difficult one.
In Canada, electricity is produced from dams, far away from the city.
- There are a lot power lines that send the electricity to cities. - Canada is big.
The power line towers are really high.
You can fall off.
- It's really dangerous. - Since you have to touch electric cables,
it's dangerous.
There's a video clip of them climbing the tower on YouTube.
It's really scary because the tower is so high.
How do they do it?
The most dangerous job in Germany is...
scaffolding job.
Before constructing a building, we need to scaffold first, right?
Only then, the construction workers...
can climb the building safely.
But scaffolders have to climb the building without any safety gear.
So the higher the buildings, the more dangerous it gets.
They sit and eat a few hundred meters above the ground...
without any safety gear. The photo they took is very famous.
They didn't have cranes when Eiffel Tower was built.
So acrobats built the tower.
They climbed the tower.
- Did you know that? - No.
Now you know.
(Okay.)
In Pakistan, there are ship breaking jobs.
They dismantle 10,000 ton ships...
without any safety gears.
They dismantle the ship with their hands.
The problem is that a lot of accidents happen in the yards.
Because when you dismantle a ship,
you have to drain all the oil and gas in the ship.
- A while ago, they tried to dismantle a ship without doing that. - It's dangerous.
So the ship exploded.
About 17 people were killed,
and about 40 or 50 people were injured.
We call them the smallest army in the world.
They are Papal Swiss Guards.
A long time ago, the Swiss guards were known for their daring spirit.
Since then, they've been protecting the Pope.
Only the people with Swiss nationality can be the guards.
Actually, there are other conditions you have to fulfill.
For example, you have to be a Catholic.
You also have to be 184cm or taller.
Only people under 30 can do the job.
Normally, they serve for two years...
and come back home. We think it's an honorable job.
- So... - But why do they hire Swiss people instead of Italians?
We call them Schweizer Garde in Germany.
Back in the day, Swiss people were hired as bodyguards.
Swiss guards were known as the best bodyguards.
It's when people used swords.
It's not a difficult job. All they do is stand all day.
Can't Italians stand all day?
No...
When pretty women walk past...
They'd whistle when they see pretty women.
- Bella Bella! - They can't do that.
Bella Bella.
It's a bit different in Japan.
Adult film stars...
(Wow)
As for male adult film stars, there are different levels.
There are only 70 actors in total.
The number of actors is small considering the size of the industry.
- There are 70 actors in total? - Yes.
Only a group of people get to appear...
in the movies.
The other actors are just extras.
- Extras? - They're extras.
They get paid based on the number of movies they appeared.
A new employee would get paid 50 dollars per movie.
- A new employee? - You mean new actor.
Yes, a new actor would get paid 50 dollars per movie.
How do they go up to the higher level then?
I'm not really sure.
You seem really interested.
There's another traditional occupation.
It's called Geisha. When you go to Kyoto,
- you can see ladies wearing white makeup. - It must be a hard job.
Geishas sing and dance at banquets.
That's what they do.
To become a geisha, you have to become a maiko first.
You have to live as a maiko for five years at least.
And you don't get paid during that period.
You don't get paid.
- You're not allowed to use cell phones. - For five years?
- You can't date men, either. - Is it an honorable job?
Yes, a lot of women want to become a geisha.
But to become one, it'll cost you about 100,000 dollars.
Moreover, you get only two days off per year.
- Just two days. - It is an extreme job.
- Let's vote. - Yes.
Everyone has different values and standards when it comes to choosing a job.
Let's vote to see the sense of values of the representatives.
Their values regarding jobs.
- Let's say you get paid 10,000 dollars a day. - 10,000 dollars a day?
That means...
you can earn 3.6 million dollars.
Right, but...
it's a job that you have to risk your life.
Give us an example.
Well... Let's say you assist aircraft...
with parking.
When the aircraft landed?
You work right in front of the plane.
- So... - Stop, stop!
You work right in front of the plane.
(They're almost crying.)
That's the job you're doing.
Let's say there's another job that provides good welfare benefits but low salary.
Which job would you choose?
Press the button if you're going to choose...
the dangerous job. One, two, three.
Jin-joo, you can press the button, too.
(5 chose the dangerous job while 7 didn't.)
I think I can control the dangerous environment.
I can control it.
For example, if I'm a fighter pilot, I can live with the risk...
because I'm the one who pilot the plane.
But there are jobs you can't control the risk.
I wouldn't choose such a job.
But if I get paid 10,000 dollars a day,
it would be fun no matter how dangerous the job is. I'd feel an adrenalin rush.
- Adrenalin? - F1 drivers or...
- Do you think it's thrilling? - Yes.
- The job would tense me up. - Guillaume is still very energetic.
What Guillaume is trying to say...
is that you get paid 10,000 dollars a day.
He chose the job thinking about the money rather than its risk.
I have my family.
So I try to avoid the dangerousness.
I'd think about my safety when I choose my job.
Guillaume just said he can live with the risk of getting hurt...
since he can control the level of danger as a F1 driver.
But what if you die?
There's an English saying that goes,
"You can't take it with you."
You can't take money.
You can't take all the money when you die.
What's the point of making money then?
I'd still take the job. Like I said,
I haven't got much to lose.
I don't have a family to support, either.
You have your mom.
My mom is not a dependent.
(My mom is not a dependent.)
I mean...
I don't need to support my mom financially...
like they do in Korea.
I'm also living in Korea at the moment.
I think it's a great opportunity.
I can set a goal and earn money.
I can always start a new job with the money I earned.
If I want to do something,
I can take the dangerous job to invest in it.
There's no reason why I shouldn't take the job.
- If you earn as much as Mark does... - Then I won't do it.
(Then I won't do it.)
If you...
take the dangerous job, you don't need to do it for a long time.
You can live freely after you retire.
It's good to have great welfare benefits,
but you have to work hard all your life under your boss.
I have a different opinion.
You can't buy your health...
and passion for your job with money.
It's something you can't buy with money.
Money can be quite dangerous, too.
You can make a lot money doing dangerous jobs.
But you might not have time to spend the money.
Let's say you earned 3.6 million dollars a year,
but your lifestyle changes based on the money you earn.
Even if you made a lot of money, it won't be easy to live without working.
But if the job is dangerous,
you get more insurance money.
- What would you talk about insurance? - Insurance money?
For your mom?
If something happens to me,
my family can get the insurance money.
What's the use of it if you die?
You should be happy too.
- It's... - But you don't live alone in this world.
- You live with others. - Did your passion fade away,
Dumpling Guy?
I think the direction of my passion is different.
The direction of the steam of a dumpling...
Does it go this way?
Even if I'm a Dumpling Guy, I wouldn't risk my life.
There's nothing more important than your life.
- Right. - Your health is what's most important.
You need to be healthy to live a long and happy life.
I think pursuing such a life is being more passionate.
I'm a risk-loving person, too. Like Oogi said,
there's an English saying that goes,
"Health is wealth."
So health is the biggest wealth you can have.
I wouldn't risk my health for money.
Because I'm confident I'll live a good life...
regardless of the amount of money I have.
That's great.
You know I love Songdo, right?
I love Songdo, so if I can save enough money to buy a high-rise apartment in Songdo,
I will quit the job right away.
You want to save up quickly?
- You will quit right away? - When I save up enough money,
- I will quit right away. - What if you die before that?
What if you die?
There's nothing I can do.
There's nothing you can do.
- That's right. - There's nothing I can do.
- Jin-joo, you didn't press the button. - No.
I thought you were going to press it.
Don't you want to make 10,000 dollars a day?
If I'm alone,
I'd want to make 10,000 dollars a day.
But if I get married and have my kids,
there's nothing more important than the time or happiness...
I share with my family.
That's why I came to this conclusion.
You came to the conclusion.
Jin-joo, what are some of the extreme jobs that you think exist in Korea?
There are firefighters who take a big part of protecting our country.
I don't think they get compensated enough for what they do.
That's right. They need to get paid more.
A lot of firefighters suffer from...
depression or post-traumatic stress disorder.
They relive the traumatic event through flashbacks and memories from the past.
I don't think we're doing much to support them with the disorder.
I think we should pay more attention to that.
I have a question. Aren't firefighters civil servants in Korea?
They are.
- Yes. - Then why don't they get paid more?
It varies depending on the local government.
In Japan, people have a great perception of them. They get paid a lot, too.
Their average annual salary was about 70,000 dollars.
They get allowances when there's an emergency situation.
- They get allowances. - Yes.
Indians also think firefighters are there to protect the people.
So people have a lot of respect for them.
But they hardly receive any welfare benefits.
Recently, a firefighter died.
He died because... You know the fire suit, right?
His fire suit was defective.
It's really annoying because the government should...
at least provide good fire suits, even if they don't raise their salary.
- Was it defective? - Yes, they should provide good fire suits at least.
Just like India, firefighters hardly receive any welfare benefits.
The problem is that they arrive...
after the fire burns down the whole thing.
Do they wait on purpose?
I think it's because they don't receive any welfare benefits.
Even if we call them, they arrive late.
Working as a firefighter in Canada became really tough recently.
I introduced my firefighter friend on "Where Is My Friend's Home".
He told me people call for rescue in winter,
saying they fell into the river.
He said only 1 person lives out of 20.
About 19 out of 20 are found dead when he gets there.
Because it's far?
Since the water is really cold, they can't hold out for long.
He said it's mentally challenging...
when he has to retrieve the body.
- What's their monthly salary? - Sorry?
- Monthly salary. - They get paid a lot.
Is that right?
Their salary became an issue a while ago. Three years ago,
a politician said firefighters are doing nothing while waiting for the call.
She said their annual salary of 100,000 dollars is too much.
There were times when the public opinion wasn't favorable.
My friend once went to a mart in his uniform.
- And people would point their fingers... - Really?
- and curse at him. - Really?
Even if they do nothing for 10 days,
they have to risk their life when they go to rescue.
I think they're heroes.
- I think they should get paid a lot. - Yes.
- People have a good perception of firefighters in the States. - I see.
They're like celebrities. There's New York Fire Department.
It's NYFD.
People wear NYFD caps...
to support them.
They use their muscles a lot, so their bodies are very bulky.
- That's really cool. - The firefighters...
make calendars.
They take their shirts off...
and show off their muscles.
They're like famous stars.
They donate all the proceeds from the selling of calendars.
It's really cool and we think they're heroes.
Firefighters make calendars as well in Italy.
- They do? - They have muscular bodies...
I'm sure Italian firefighters are really handsome.
(Korean firefighters make calendars too.)
(The proceeds are donated for children burn victims.)
Let's talk about the jobs that reflect each country's cultural characteristics.
In Switzerland, there are ski patrol jobs.
They undertake a special task.
- What is it? - They have to cause avalanches on purpose.
In Switzerland, there are many mountains.
So avalanches are common, and people can get killed.
To prevent such accidents,
ski patrol workers get on the helicopter and throw bombs.
They trigger avalanches...
with the bombs.
It's dangerous.
During Ramadan in Pakistan,
people eat meals at 3am.
(Ramadan is the period of fasting for Muslims.)
(They fast during the daylight hours, so they eat their first meal at 3am.)
There is a job where you wake up other people during Ramadan.
(It's like human alarm.)
It sounds very cute for some reason.
- Do they shout? - They go from door to door and say,
(Wake up!)
(It's mealtime.)
They say this.
It feels very warm.
Some people shout to wake people up.
Some use drums, too.
They play drums at 3am?
- Wake up! - Because they have to fast, too.
But getting up earlier than others...
and shouting to wake people up can be really exhausting.
- Right. - On the last day of Ramadan,
they can't even shout because they're too tired.
- I see. - That's why they use drums.
(Wake up.)
(We are a matching band of Pakistan.)
(I got up. You can stop it.)
In some regions of China,
there is a culture where people have to cry together...
- when someone dies. - They cry together.
Yes, they get paid...
and cry for the family in mourning.
(Crying)
(It's a unique job that reflects Chinese culture.)
They also burn papers or fake money, so they have to breathe in the smoke.
There was a news about this. A woman has been doing the job for 19 years.
- She almost lost her eyesight. - She could die from doing the job.
In France, there are street painters.
It's considered as an occupation.
To work as a painter,
they have to register at the local government and pay tax as well.
Instead, their right to paint on the street...
is guaranteed.
- Some of them paint illegally, right? - Yes.
A painter drew me in Montmartre.
- He was really bad. - Many people do it illegally in Montmartre.
I paid him 10 dollars, but he was really bad.
- He drew your face? - Yes.
I looked like a toad in the painting.
Maybe he did a good job then.
Let's see the painting.
Many truck drivers appear in Hollywood movies, right?
- Right. - It's a tough job, isn't it?
Actually, one of my friends is a truck driver.
He said he drives 40,000km per month.
Sometimes they have to work 130 hours straight.
There is a medication that is prescribed to ADHD patients.
It's medicine to help the patients concentrate.
When you take this, it helps you stay awake. They take it.
Goodness.
- What about their income? - They get paid a lot.
They get paid so much that someone said this,
- "Truckers get paid more than professors." - Is that true?
I don't if that is true but there is that saying.
That's not true in Europe.
In Europe, driving trucks is very hard.
- It's dangerous. - It's dangerous in our country, too.
There's a road around the Rocky Mountains that is very dangerous in winter.
It is like driving on a roller coaster.
It's a very dangerous highway nicknamed, "the Million Dollar Highway".
(S-shaped turn from your worst nightmare.)
Around Alaska or was it Canada,
the roads have become completely frozen.
It's so dangerous that they used that as inspiration for a TV show.
The show is called, "Ice Road Truckers".
They made a reality show inspired by the roads.
It is a very popular show. You can barely see the roads.
They can't see anything due to the snow and ice but they still have to drive.
I heard about this as well, they say the hardest part is it gets very lonely.
Because they are alone for the whole day.
In India, truck drivers look ill tempered from the moment you see them.
Everyone agrees that it is a very arduous job.
What is the most surprising thing is, trucks in India don't have air conditioning.
- Right. - Is that true?
It is really hot inside.
Since there is no air conditioning, if the chair...
- is made out of leather, it'd get sticky from the sweat, right? - Right.
That's why the chairs in the trucks are made from steel.
They sit in those and drive for 15 hours.
That's not the end of their hardship.
Most of the roads are one way streets.
- The cars are coming towards you... - They have to stop.
- Yes. - Because it is a narrow road.
(There's a cliff next to them.)
(The trucks have to give way to each other as they drive.)
(You need to risk your life for these driving techniques.)
You mentioned truckers get lonely, right?
Indian and Pakistani truck drivers...
think of their trucks as their wives.
That's why they decorate it in such a fancy way.
That's right.
They are very fancy.
Since they are pretty, Pakistani truck art has become very famous around the world.
Truck art.
- Truck art. - Our trucks are very beautiful.
- They are. - Dolce & Gabbana also used one in their marketing campaign.
Among the jobs that you have done, what was the hardest job?
For me it was working in a mine in Mexico.
I worked as a Korean translator for one year.
Mexico has a lot of mines.
A lot of Korean companies are interested in the mines in Mexico since it is cheap.
So at that time I would communicate between the Korean and Mexican specialist.
It is a very dangerous job, right?
The mine could collapse or something could explode.
But it was a very difficult job for me because of a different reason.
When the department head would tell the Mexican employees off,
he'd ask me to translate for him.
(That's dangerous.)
The problem was...
the department head would curse...
and ask me to ask them why they didn't do this.
You had to translate everything.
- What did you do? - What did you do?
I filtered out the bad language.
- I filtered the language. - That was a smart thing to do.
I would tell the employees, "He's asking you..."
"to work harder."
That's what I did but the problem is,
when the Mexican employees get scolded, they get angry.
The Mexican employees start to curse.
"Who is he to come to Mexico and curse at people."
I would filter it again.
- You'd filter the language. - I would.
- They said they will try harder. - Wouldn't the department head say this,
"He seems to be saying more than that."
- Translate it. - Mexicans like to joke around.
There's a lot of opportunities to joke around, right?
They would go out to the mining site with the department head.
The department head would ask whether they had cleaned this part.
I would translate the question.
We have an expression in Mexico,
"It's as clean as a Princess's bottom."
- We have this expression. - How do you say it in Spanish?
(It's very clean.")
That's how you say it.
Princess.
When I asked the employees,
they said that expression to me and asked me to translate it.
I filtered the language and translated it again.
- They did clean up. - They say it is very clean.
Yes, they cleaned it up.
The Mexican employee asked me, "Why didn't he laugh?"
- "Why didn't he laugh?" - It was a funny joke.
He didn't laugh because I didn't tell him.
"You should have told him. You're meant to translate it."
- "You're meant to translate." - "Why aren't you translating?"
- "You need to translate." - "Why didn't you tell him the joke?"
"Okay. I will tell him."
I turned to the department head and said, "Sir,"
- This is funny. - "They said it is as funny as a Princess's bottom."
- "What does that mean?" - "What nonsense is that?"
"What nonsense is that?"
- Translating is hard. - It really is.
I used to work as tour guide as well.
When you take tourists to the Taj Mahal, people ask you to take photos of them.
A lot of people ask me that. I told the Korean tourists...
not to ask people to take photos because they are very costly.
Even if you say it in Korean, all the Indian photographers understand you.
It's a burial site, right?
"If you come back next time, we'll make this your burial site."
- We'll make this your burial site." - It's dangerous.
You have to be very careful.
At workplaces, accidents and incidents are very frequent.
Let's hear about some industrial incidents that happened in your countries.
In 2012, a clothing factory had a fire.
The problem was, the factory didn't have a fire extinguisher.
The emergency exit was blocked so they couldn't get out.
The owner was worried that people might try to steal goods...
- so he locked all the doors. - Goodness.
So, people jumped out the fourth floor window.
Almost 300 people died in the fire.
That's the worst.
What happened to the owner?
Three of the people in charge...
were arrested for murder.
In India, this is the saddest accident.
We refer to it as the Bhopal gas tragedy.
In 1984,
A US chemical company called Union Carbide Corporation...
had a gas leak in their pesticide plant.
Almost 40 tons of methyl isocyanate had leaked out from the plant.
So, in the city Bhopal...
the inhabiting city residents inhaled the poisonous gas while they slept.
There were almost 3,000 people killed.
Afterwards, we heard almost 15,000 people had died from this.
What I find the most regrettable about this was,
the CEO at that time, Warren Anderson,
he paid a large amount of money for bail and ran away to the US.
He didn't face a trial and died peacefully.
Because of this incident,
almost close to 5,700 people filed a lawsuit.
- But the compensation... - Compensation money.
was only 350 dollars per person.
They also received it, 25 years after the initial disaster.
- That is a frustrating incident. - In 2006, a mine collapsed in Mexico.
When it collapsed, 65 people...
were buried and trapped 150m below ground.
It was like the movie, "The Tunnel". I don't know if you have seen it.
It was a similar situation to that.
They dug a hole in site A, but there was no one there.
A few days later, they dug in site B, but again there was no one there.
In the end, the government...
thought that it was highly unlikely that the people would still be alive.
They stopped trying to save them.
They did that but four months later,
they found the first body.
Almost 10 months later, they found the second corpse.
They couldn't find the other remaining bodies.
In Germany, we had an incident that was like a scene from "The Terminator".
We use a lot of machines in factories now, right?
In car factories, they have these robot arms.
The arms grab and assemble parts of the car.
One of the arms grabbed a person and dragged him into the frame.
They quickly took him to a hospital, but it was too late.
That's awful.
There was a company called Foxconn with factories in China.
If you look at the back of an iPhone, it has "Made in China" written on it, right?
- Yes. - You could say that this is the company that manufactured all of these.
However, this company overworks their employees.
The workers are very stressed.
So back in 2010, in one year...
there were 14 employees who killed themselves.
There were two people who killed themselves this year.
- How could... - They set up mats so people can't kills themselves.
- We started to talk about suicide. - Yes.
This is a very hot topic in Japan.
A very large company called Dentsu Inc.,
had one of their new employees kill themselves.
It was acknowledged as death from being overworked.
There were 98 cases of people being overworked.
On the one hand, there were almost 2,000 cases...
that were considered death from being overworked.
In Japan, the culture of overworking exists...
and now people are trying to find away to stop suicides.
- We are frantically looking for a solution. - Has this caused any boycotts?
- We don't boycott work. - You don't, right?
We don't express...
our opinions that often.
We have labor unions that protects the rights of workers.
I think each country's labor unions would have their own unique characteristics.
Could you introduce a country where the labor union is powerful?
Jin-joo, don't actors also have a union?
Yes, we do.
We also have something very similar to a labor union.
A lot of actors and actresses will work on projects,
but sometimes they won't receive a performance fee.
- There is. - It happens sometimes.
The union fights for the actors and gets the performance fees for them.
Actors don't have a fixed income,
so they go to Korea Broadcasting Performers' Association.
The actors receive a rerun fee from the association.
When I see the numbers in my bank account decreasing,
and when I feel like my life is over.
- Like welcome rain, - It appears.
"The rerun fee has been deposited in your account."
- I feel so grateful. - The broadcasters name pops up as well.
Yes.
Shall we hear from another country?
In Germany, we have a dominant metalworker's union.
It's probably the most powerful labor union in Europe.
Just think of it as a very influential labor union.
There are over 2.4 million members in the association.
They did a lot of work for their members.
For example, in the past when you worked in a factory,
you were expected to work 6 or 7 days a week.
The association changed this to five working days a week.
They also were influential in making sure that...
the employees could only work 40 hours a week.
In France, the people will protest and then negotiate if they have a problem.
But from the 60s...
the workers with complaints...
- would kidnap the boss and imprison him. - Kidnap?
It is illegal.
But from 2009, this has become a trend.
(In 2009 a bank branch manager was kidnapped.)
(In 2009, the director of human resources was kidnapped.)
The reason this became a trend was...
because in a way it is a very effective solution.
From the company's perspective, it's not that bad.
Because only one person suffers.
And even if the workers get charged.
- They won't receive a harsh sentence. - They won't.
They don't really.
The judges understand the worker's position.
The CEO also understand the worker's position.
- Really? - They understand?
- They understand even as they are being kidnapped? - Yes.
- Yes. - "I deserve to be kidnapped. Okay."
- I read an interview that the CEO gave. - "Okay."
He had gone to work and had this feeling,
"I have a feeling that I'm going to kidnapped today."
"I feel like I'm going to be kidnapped today."
(I have that feeling.)
"It feels like a good day to be kidnapped."
"I'm getting a strange feeling."
Aren't there a lot of puppet CEOs?
- Puppet CEOs? - You're going to kidnap them?
- It's dangerous. - There are those dangers.
The CEO doesn't appoint himself as the head...
- and puts a figure head up. - So he doesn't get kidnapped.
Suzuki Motor Corporation has a very big factory in India.
The negotiations with the Indian labor union didn't go well...
so the employees kidnapped the Indian director of human relations...
and imprisoned him in a room.
They burned him to death. It was a murder.
Around 90 workers were investigated due to this case.
We had something even worse happen to us in Pakistan.
There was something called boned labor.
- Let's say you were working a factory, - Bonded labor.
and someone in your family got sick and you needed money.
You'd borrow money from the factory owner...
and work in the factory without getting paid.
Let's say you did this for a while and you said...
to the owner and told him you've paid him back.
"You've been living in the factory and I've fed you as well."
"The amount of money you have borrowed has now doubled."
"You have to keep working."
- They force them to work without paying them. - That was serious.
It's not only him, but his family and children have to start working there as well.
The government is trying to get rid of this practice.
They have passed laws to stop this practice and people have worked to stop it.
However it is still a serious problem that still exists.
The labor unions are not very powerful in Switzerland.
But I don't believe they need to be.
I agree with you on that.
- Sorry. - No, that's okay.
We don't have a lot of strikes that happen in Switzerland.
The labor unions and companies...
negotiate rationally and logically.
They are looking for a reasonable solution.
(A reasonable solution through communications)
Strikes are necessary as a worker's rights.
It does make things difficult for other citizens though.
We'll ask for your opinions now.
Strikes to protect the rights of the workers.
We need everyone to go on strike or...
a partial strike for the other citizens.
Raise your hand if you think everyone needs to go on strike. In 1, 2 and 3.
(It's 7 for and 5 against.)
That's a lot.
If you want the strike to successful,
then I everyone has to do it.
You have to come out strong to get the government's attention.
- For it to be effective, this is necessary. - It is necessary.
If the strike is too small...
and you try to be considerate as well,
- then who would pay attention. - Christian,
if a strike leads to threats, then that is also a problem too.
The people on strike also have families as well, right?
They could also suffer for this,
so a partial strike and respect for the citizens is really important.
Making an impact is important but so is respect.
- If people think this is very important, - Worker laws...
- then the government needs to hurry up and solve this. - They need to.
I would like them to tell them complaints in a nice way.
If you make the problem bigger like this,
then the people will start quarreling with other people.
When people gather together and make a lot of noise.
It could lead to a riot.
- Why would you think that? - Even with a partial strike, this could happen.
- No. - I'd like to chime in and say,
a strike is trying to send a message to the world.
The company needs to suffer as well.
If 50 percent of people, the company will start make a profit.
- They would still make money. - Right.
The company needs to suffer in order for them to understand.
They have to suffer?
- That's not a good solution. - What I'm trying to say is...
- They need to lose money in order to... - But...
I think in the case of factories, you are 100 percent right.
However, with society's infrastructure,
not having subways, buses and post office stop working...
So, if the trains stopped running in New York,
there would be a lot of people who would be affected.
Lower income households would also need to go to work,
but because of that strike, they wouldn't be able to go to work.
I completely disagree.
A strike is necessary to help people remember how important it is.
But you have to remember...
As Nik said before, the point is...
strikes do need to cause some discomfort.
- No, that's not it. - Through these inconveniences...
you're trying to make a point or send a message.
If you think of this as a partial strike,
instead of having the subways stop completely,
having the trains run slower would also be sending a message.
A strike is all well and good but what about those people affected by the strike?
- Public opinion will turn against them. - Right.
In truth, a successful strike is...
one that has public opinion on their side.
- You need to have the public on your side. - So, you can't hurt a lot of people.
You have to make them your ally.
- You have to turn them to your side. - Let's say,
What these people are going through is even worse.
To help get their voices heard,
I think it's okay to cause a little bit of an inconvenience for other people.
This has to get bigger, not the cost or harm to people,
- the strike needs to be bigger. - Zahid,
The way I see it, the people who are opposed to strikes are...
talking about the subway. For example the subway,
We need to have this service running no matter what.
They think this is normal.
But people who work there also have the right to go on strike.
They have the right to go on strike,
but they don't have the right to harm other people because of it.
- For example... - It's the cost of going on strike.
For me, going on a partial strike...
is okay because it's their job.
But by not working,
for a person who has a task,
- I believe that person is being irresponsible. - Right.
We're not just working for money, right?
We have consumers, too.
- I believe it is also our responsibility to think about those people. - But...
these people have provided these services to the people all year round.
- We have to remember that. - That is a completely different matter.
What connection is there between consumers and a bad CEO?
The consumers would of course be affected,
but the problem lies with the CEO.
Rather than going on a partial strike,
they should try and shine a light on this.
- They could wear clothes or hats with signs about that. - Right.
- I think that would be better. - Right.
- In Switzerland, - In France,
they did something similar with their clothes a few years ago.
On their backs, they had a sign that said, "We've worked here 10 years."
"But our wages have not gone up."
The citizens got to learn about this...
(It was successful because the citizens found out.)
- I understand. - Jin-joo,
- I voted for a partial strike. - Did you cast your vote for that?
- Yes, I did. - Why is that?
I think, with just a partial strike,
the idea of a strike would cause a commotion at the company.
- I believe that it could have a big impact on the company. - It'd make an impact.
- I see. - Yes.
If we could come up with a solution that guarantees workers jobs,
and pays a lot.
Also the work is not that stressful.
We refer to that as a dream job.
What would be considered a dream job in each country?
We really do have one in Japan.
There is a company called Mirai Industry Co., Ltd.
They are number one for electric equipment.
They are a blue chip company.
They have been called paradise on earth.
It is the company where the employees are the happiest in Japan.
That's the kind of company they are.
- Firstly, their vacations are very long. - Really?
They get 140 days a year.
- That's incredible. - They get that many days.
They also get 40 days of paid leave.
- They pay them while they are on vacation? - Yes.
They don't have overtime work.
- They don't work in the weekends. - What is wrong with them?
Everyone is a permanent worker.
The retirement age is 70.
- They promise employment for life. - Employment for life.
Yes. The great thing about this company is, once every five years...
the company pays for the employees...
to go on vacation overseas.
- The employees get to go together? - Yes.
In Switzerland, we also have a dream job.
The job title is to be a hermit.
- A hermit. - Yes, a hermit.
It's located in a place called St Verena.
Since the 15th century, this was a hermitage.
In the past, only priests were allowed to apply for this job.
But today, anyone can apply for this job.
The job description is...
to maintain and take care of the church and ravine.
And finally you have to greet the tourists who come there.
It's a job where you do nothing.
What does a hermit do exactly?
They have to live in seclusion.
You have to hide. Do you get fired if they spot you?
You have to greet the tourists and tell them that you're the hermit.
During the winter in Pakistan,
the employees in the tourist and hotel industries...
have such a easy time working.
Because no one comes to the north of Pakistan in winter because it's too cold.
So for 3 to 4 months a year...
they receive their paychecks and have a relaxing time.
- They don't do anything. - They just turn up for work.
- Yes, no one comes. - I think in Japan, there is an inn... Is it called a ryokan?
- Yes, ryokan. - I went to an inn.
We were the only ones there.
There was a Korean employee there.
"Thank you so much."
"We had a earthquake last week, but you still came."
We didn't know.
For us it's a hotel tester.
When a new hotel appears, they go in.
And they just have to spend the day inside the hotel.
By doing that, they receive 1,700 dollars a month.
So last year,
there was over 7,000 applicants for that job.
They have to take photos of the hotel room.
They have to check how clean it is.
They have to check how comfortable the room is.
All I need to do is send in the reports.
We also have some good tester jobs.
- What kind? - Beer testers.
We get to travel all around the world...
and taste all kinds of beer.
They pay us 10,000 dollars a month for that.
We can earn that much money...
and travel around at the same time.
We would have to drink beers every day.
I'm really working hard on doing that.
You're not getting paid though.
He's using his own money to do that.
Mexico has condom testers.
- What? - Condom testers?
To get this job, you need to...
prove you're a couple.
After the test,
- you get 100 dollars. - What do they test?
- They see if it breaks or not. - Yes.
After the test,
we have to write out a feedback report...
about the condom.
I see.
Let's talk about our dream jobs.
This was my children dream job. I wanted to be...
a Lego designer.
You would just play all day with Lego.
Another reason why I wanted that job is their name card.
I'm interested in the design of those cards.
I think Lego has the best designs for their name cards.
- It's basically a Lego person. - Yes?
That Lego person looks like you. It has your name,
your position...
Like this?
Yes.
(Alex, Toy Designer)
(Jun Hyun-moo, MC)
(Park Jin-joo, Actress)
Let's switch our wigs.
(Let's switch wigs.)
You know those bars inside the international airports?
I want to be a bartender.
- It suits you. - It does.
I can meet people from all over the world.
I can hear their stories.
- What about horrible customers? - I can just ignore them.
Because they're not going to be regulars.
I want to be a shepherd in a nomad tribe.
A shepherd?
After living in Seoul for eight years,
I want to go to the countryside.
I want to take some of my friends through Mongol,
China, and Pakistan, doing that kind of job.
I can earn money, travel,
and eat lamb. It sounds really good.
(Professional Shepherd)
I see.
It was Park Jin-joo's issue for the 130th Non Summit Meeting.
We concluded that challenging myself to do different jobs was abnormal.
Just like how love can be forgotten by another love,
a challenge can be forgotten by another challenge.
Can you tell about your next challenge...
and what you'll do when you fulfill it?
Can you tell about your next challenge...
and what you'll do when you fulfill it?
When I was little, I dreamt about...
- becoming a voice actress. - I see.
- I feel like you'll do it very well. - Me too.
What will you do when you fulfill that dream?
If I make my first debut as a voice actress,
I was going to have a party for all of you.
(We hope it comes true!)
- You will? - You're not lying?
Can you tell us your thoughts about being here today?
When everyone was talking about their dreams, they looked very happy.
Also, it warmed my heart to see everyone still chasing after their dreams.
I'll also do my best to head towards my own dreams.
Thank you.
We'll end our summit for today.
Until the day we all become normal
Whether it's a challenging or easy, whether it gives a high salary or not,
- it'll always be tough. - Yes.
During those times, we always say certain things to the CEO.
Yes.
You don’t know how I feel, you’re so mean, you’re so mean
I’m like TT
- Just like TT - Meeting adjourned!
(Meeting adjourned!)
("Still Christmas" by Yoon Jong-shin)
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(Do we have to do everything?)
(He summons up his underlings whenever it's possible.)
(That's why we prepared something.)
(Isn't that Lee Su-geun?)
(Lee Yoon-Seok and Lee Su-geun)
(Today will be comfortable.)
(Confident)
(They enter Pyeongchang-dong with their underlings.)
(And they go to meet...)
(What? So? No.)
(That's too bad.)
(Beep)
(Excuse me?)
(It's the first time I've ever felt this way.)
(Tearing up)
(What how I do it.)
(Bold and brave)
(We don't eat because we're on a diet.)
(What?)
(Disappointed)
(Humiliated)
(Ho-dong tries it out one more time.)
(One second.)
(Did you come here to find...)
(Hello.)
(What?)
(Who is this person they met by coincidence?)
(That night, they were very lucky.)
(But, it's not over until it's over.)
(It's an unpredictable story of an expedition to Pyeongchang-dong.)
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